Why Hell Can't Be Real 5

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Here are a few more scriptural reasons why I cannot believe in a literal eternal torment. God bless!
Jude 7: In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

This text shows that Sodom and Gomorrah serve as an example to the rest of the world of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire. This cant be talking about hell because if it were then Sodom and Gomorrah wouldn't serve as an example to the rest of the world because the rest of the world wouldn't be able to see them. Therefore, Jude is referring to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah in Genesis 19 which says, "hen the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens." The fire came from the Lord and it was, according to Jude, "eternal fire." However, Sodom and Gomorrah are not still burning today. The fire is eternal because it is the glory of God, but that which the fire burns is not eternal and is thus annihilated. We can see this principle of annihilation in the following texts:


Malachi 4:1 - Surely the day is coming; it will burn like a furnace. All the arrogant and every evildoer will be stubble, and the day that is coming will set them on fire,” says the Lord Almighty. “Not a root or a branch will be left to them.


Ezekiel 28:18 - By the multitude of thine iniquities, in the unrighteousness of thy traffic, thou hast profaned thy sanctuaries; therefore have I brought forth a fire from the midst of thee; it hath devoured thee, and I have turned thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.(This is a prophecy against the King of Tyre which is also understood to apply to Satan himself. The quoted text would then be a prophecy of Satan's ultimate destruction). 


With the weight of biblical evidence presented here and in my previous posts I cannot accept the doctrine of eternal torment. The reality is that if man had not adopted the pagan view of the immortal soul (a teaching that is foreign to scripture) then the doctrine of eternal torment would never even have existed. The problem of sin had a beginning and it will also have an end. God's sovereignty assures this. The plan of redemption was to give mortal man an opportunity at being restored to eternal friendship with God. Those who don't want that eternal life are honored by God who in turn gives them what they want - eternal separation from Him in death. In the end the universe will be cleansed. Sin and its consequences will no longer haunt the creation of God. The redeemed will live forever and ever throughout the ceaseless ages of eternity. The wicked will be no more for as King David wrote, "A little while, and the wicked will be no more; though you look for them, they will not be found. But the meek will inherit the land and enjoy peace and prosperity."

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  1. Chris Endrizzi (Saint Christopher)July 29, 2014 at 12:22 PM

    Nature of death and state of the dead

    May The Blessed Holy Spirit help and teach us as we:

    Praise God for HIS Righteous Judgments

    Bacchiocchi says:
    Satan's methods have changed, but his objective is still the same: make people believe the lie that no matter what they do they will not die but become like gods by living for ever. Our only protection against such a deception is through a clear understanding of what the Bible teaches about the nature of death and the state of the dead. To these questions we now turn our attention.

    Endrizzi says: I am ALL for that great idea, since I have been acquiring “brain fog” reading “men's ideas!”

    Bacchiocchi:
    Death as the Separation of the Soul from the Body. A major question we need to address at this point is the Biblical view of the nature of death. To be specific: Is death the separation of the immortal soul from the mortal body, so that when the body dies the soul lives on? Or, is death the cessation of existence of the whole person, body and soul?

    Even the liberal Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible, in its article on death explicitly states: The 'departure' of the nephesh [soul] must be viewed as a figure of speech, for it does not continue to exist independently of the body, but dies with it (Num 31:19; Judg. 16:30; Ez 13:19). No Biblical text authorizes the statement that the 'soul' is separated from the body at the moment of death.

    Endrizzi: Really? A “liberal” interpretation of Scriptures to teach us:

    And as for you, remain outside the camp seven days; whoever has killed any person, and whoever has touched any slain, purify yourselves and your captives on the third day and on the seventh day. (Numbers 31:19)

    Then Samson said, “Let me die with the Philistines!” And he pushed with all his might, and the temple fell on the lords and all the people who were in it. So the dead that he killed at his death were more than he had killed in his life. (Judges 16:30)

    And will you profane Me among My people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, killing people who should not die, and keeping people alive who should not live, by your lying to My people who listen to lies? (Ezekiel 13:19)

    Not a single one of these verses taught us that the “soul does not continue to exist independently of the body, but dies with it”!

    “No Biblical text authorizes the statement that the 'soul' is separated from the body at the moment of death“? – instead of “profaning God and lying to His people,” how about the Plain, Clear, and
    Unadulterated Truth:

    And it came to pass, as her soul was in departing, (for she died) that she called his name Benoni: but his father called him Benjamin. (Genesis 35:18)

    One does have to wonder why the “liberals” Did Not reference this Bible verse in their
    statement?

    Nevertheless, the real question here is, do we now call this a “figure of speech,” so we can agree with Bacchiocchi and “liberals,” or do we place our faith in God and tell Him we don't quite understand the “Biblical view of the nature of death” yet, and continue our search (Acts 17:11) for ALL The Bible teaches on this “doctrine” and continue our dialogue until we have the “clear understanding of what the Bible teaches about the nature of death and the state of the dead.”

    Surely then, those of us who are saved by The Amazing Grace of The LORD JESUS CHRIST, could then say we have also heeded our apostle and his “beseeching/begging/appealing/pleading/exhorting us” found in 1 Corinthians 1:10.

    Marcos, what think ye?

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    1. Hi Chris! I am curious about your last name. Is that Italian? I grew up in New Jersey so whenever I hear an Italian sounding name it perks my interest, lol.

      You pose an excellent challenge, but before I respond I want to clarify something. In your comment you quote both Bacchiochi and a liberal document and show that they both hold the same concept with regards to the mortality of the soul. It appears to me that you are suggesting that such an idea is liberal and therefore unbiblical. That is a fair position to hold. After all, I am no liberal and I share you concern over liberal ideas that subvert plain Bible truth. However, I think it is important to look at the panoramic view of this topic. When we do we discover that many conservative scholars and theologians also hold the same position. Bachiochi himself was a very conservative man. So conservative, in fact, that at times his "conservatism" led him to poor biblical exegesis (as is the case in his book "The Christian and Rock Music"). In addition, John Stott and Edward Fudge were both conservatives who believed in the mortality of the soul and the Rethinking Hell movement (rethinkinghell.com) is also composed of numerous conservative evangelicals who believe the Bible supports the mortal soul theory.

      The texts that you quoted are excellent texts to consider in this study. However, as you stated, we need to "continue our search for ALL The Bible teaches on this 'doctrine.'” This includes numerous texts that do not seem to support your position, and admitedly, numerous texts that do not seem to support mine.

      Here is a link to a short Bible study I have done on the topic. Perhaps you can read it and we can dialogue a bit: http://www.jesusadventismandi.com/2012/11/what-happens-when-you-die.html

      Blessings!
      Marcos

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    2. Hi Marcos,

      Don't tell me, you “conquerors from Spain(?) had trouble with the 'mafia' in Jersey”. Yep, I'm part Italian, part Spanish (dad's side), part pioneer (Daniel Boone was 4th great granddad on my mom's side) – Heinz 57 lol.

      Looking forward to a great dialogue, so I will respond to your other post after I clarify where in the “ALL Scriptures” I need to start the discussion.

      Greatest Blessings!

      Saint Christopher

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